Important announcement for non-GLNF readers

Published on by Winnie

When you are slaving away at the workface and are more than well-informed of what is going on, when we have an idea where we’re going and where we’ve come from, it is easy to overlook the quandary of those readers who’ve discovered LML in English only recently.


This blog was created almost a year ago in response to a crisis situation which finds its origins as far back as 1997 and which first came to the notice of a significant number of GLNF members as of December 4th, 2009.


Sometime in 2010 we realised that fellow Masons in Great Britain, North America and elsewhere wanted to know what all the fuss was about in the GLNF. But French not being their strong suit, LML in English came into being.


The statistics published a few days ago justify our existence but the problem remains that the new reader is particularly lost. Following a telephone conversation with a regular reader from England this morning we have decided to produce 2 important background articles over the next few days :


a sort of timeline history of the conflict going back to its origins in about 1997

an explanation of the legal requirements for the existence any association here in France, be it a large organisation with 40000 members such as the GLNF or a small group of residents in a suburban street who want to stop the local council chopping down a tree. This article will explain why we are constantly referring to the GLNF 1901 Association and to the GLNF (as a Grand Lodge) and why we need to have both a President (of the association) and a Grand Master (of the Grande Loge Nationale Française).


The “Enter Comment” possibility at the end of each article we post is your opportunity to make yourself heard and to ask questions if you are feeling lost. We’ll try to be your GPS (and that doesn’t mean Grand Provincial Secretary !).

Comment on this post

Tyler 09/26/2011 09:55

what is happening about Mark and English brethren and Lodges

Winnie 09/26/2011 11:37

Dear Brother Tyler,

A first answer to the "English Brethren & Lodges" part. I'm seeking advice on the "Mark" part and will get back to you con that.

Currently relations are suspended between the UGLE and the GLNF, both parties having written to the other stating their position. The GLNF letter, dated July
14th (emblematic date !) but only sent by e-mail on July 21st, 2 days after the UGLE suspended relations, is nothing short of farcical.

The situation :

1. UGLE members who were already members of a GLNF Lodge prior to July :

They can still attend their GLNF Lodge or visit other GLNF Lodges under their existing GLNF status. They can only attend their UGLE Lodge or visit other UGLE
Lodges under their existing status of being UGLE members.

The same goes for GLNF members who are existing members of a UGLE Lodge. IN France GLNF, in England UGLE.

2. UGLE members who are not members of a GLNF Lodge and wish to join, affiliate with or visit a GLNF Lodge. No, No and No !!! Relations are suspended
bi-laterally and no joining or affiliating is allowed (Bear in mind that any such action must have the prior approval of the UGLE Grand Master which would not be forthcoming. And visiting is also
forbidden. You lay find a GLNF Lodge and WM who would turn a blind eye but in doing so, both parties are outside the Landmarks.

The following information concerning the Mark comes from a senior
brother involved in Mark Masonry both in the French GLMMMF and the GLMMM for England and Wales.

"  To my
knowledge, there have been no “official” reactions from GLMMM concerning the goings on within the GLNF. I believe that the view is that as the GLMMMF is a separate Sovereign Order, outside of the
GLNF, it is not affected and there is no prohibition on English Mark Masons from belonging to or attending Lodges under the GLMMMF.

speaking Lodges in the GLMMMF fall into 2 categories. Those where the members are predominantly non-resident in France, 3 in the North and close to Channel Ports, and those where the members are
mostly resident ex-pats. These tend to be in areas popular for the weather, i.e. Provence and Cote d’Azur., As for numbers, for the 3 in the North I would estimate around 60 to

I trust this helps.