Scotland and Ireland as well ???

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Scotland and Ireland as well ???

 

We are sure the information is reasonably correct but for the moment, without proof, we can only present it as a strong rumour.

 

A reader of Myosotis PACA , GLNF member and also member of a Lodge in Scotland has left a comment that the Grand Lodge of Ireland withdrew recognition of the GLNF last Monday and the Scotland is in the throes of doing so. The GLS officially asked him to choose between it and the GLNF. Unfortunately he folded and has resigned from the GLNF. Another small victory for Stifani !!!

 

Our only observation is that rather than totally withdraw recognition the GLI is likely to take the initial step of requiring its joint members to not have contact with the GLNF.

 

We’ll keep you posted.

 

Reçu par dessus des mers...de l'Orient à l'Occident!

MTCFF et S,

Ci-joint ma lettre de demission de la GLNF, Hier, mon VM de la GL d'Ecosse m'a appele pour me demander de choisir entre la GLE et la GLNF.

La Grande Loge d'Irlande a enleve la recognition de la GLNF lundi dernier et la GL d'Ecosse et la GL Unie d'Angleterre vont faire la meme chose d'ici la fin de la semaine.

Quelle tristesse et quel gaspillage!

Amities Fraternelles
Commentaire n°5 posté par yunus hier à 20h57
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gars de l'Est 06/11/2011 12:19


Dear Brother Winnie,

I have received the following information with regards to the interim measures applied to inter-visits :


"French Masons are welcome to visit English Lodges

English Masons should not visit French (GLNF) lodges for the time being. This decision will be reviewed after the new Grand Master is elected and installed.

Until then:-

French Masons who are also members of an English Lodge (or chapter) are welcome in any English lodge or lodge recognised by the UGLE they must, however, wear only their English rank and
regalia.

English Masons who are members of a French Lodge or Chapter may visit only if they wear their French regalia and rank."


You might want to confirm this line of application with the authorities of the UGLE for the benefit of the many interested Brethren.

S & F


Winnie 06/12/2011 11:09



Here is the full text that our Brother Gars de l'Est received.


"


I spoke to the Grand Secretary’s office at UGLE about the president of the Board of the General Purposes
committee’s comments to the Quarterly communications of the Grand Lodge of UGLE in respect of France.


 


Simplified here is what he said.


 


French Masons are welcome to visit English Lodges


English Masons should not visit French (GLNF) lodges for the time being.  This decision
will be reviewed after the new Grand Master is elected and installed.


Until then:-


French Masons who are also members of an English Lodge (or chapter) are welcome in any English
lodge or lodge recognised by the UGLE they must, however, wear only their English rank and regalia. 


English Masons who are members of a French Lodge or Chapter may visit only if they wear their
French regalia and rank.


 


I was given the impression that this was because the problems in France had been broadcast to a
wider audience than just Masons and they did not, by inference, want to be associated with “bringing Masonry into disrepute”


 
Fraternally Yours"


Arturusrex 06/11/2011 12:12


In my great simplicity, I always thought that respect of protocol took precedence over preciptated action. Between Ireland, Scotland and England and the GLNF the protocol is one of Grand Lodges in
amity. In the case of none of these three Grand Lodges has the protocol been overturned by a declaration of non -recognizance with the GLNF. It therefore seems to me in my naivety that it is wrong
of the Powers-that-Be in these lands to force the issue with brothers having dual membership, or the issue of visiting, in pre-emption of proper and clearly stated decisions.This is messy. Proper
diplomacy between fraternal bodies should not be messy. Arturusrex


Winnie 06/11/2011 12:21



But what goes on behind the proper diplomacy is always messy. And you can't get much messier than the Ex-GM of the GLNF !!!